The route largely follows the established trail, but hikers coming from Long Valley over the weekend either did not find or follow my broken trail from last week, so in sections the route is unusual. . While all time and labor is volunteered, the San Jacinto Trail Report uses small private donations to cover costs. SGWA lists the elevation gain from momyer creek trailhead to SG summit as 6,062'. Crampons (or perhaps spikes or snowshoes on some days) are recommended. MLS # EV23032625 Altitudes are approximate. Temperatures may be mild enough to produce rain at mid elevations, for example totaling less than 0.25 inch in Idyllwild, while snow accumulation above 10,000 ft elevation is currently forecast to be a dusting, perhaps few inches at most. At Day Camp, girls sing songs, try their hand at science experiments, learn knot-tying skills, make arts and crafts and enjoy water activities during these fun themed weeks. United States. Most of the upper half of the trail had 3-4 inches of lovely fluffy powder. By 619jeffry. At the Peak on Wednesday 18th January 2023 at 1115 the air temperature was 16.8F (-8C), with a windchill temperature of -3.6F (-20C), 27% relative humidity, and a frigid NNW wind sustained at 10 mph gusting to 25.8 mph. Temperatures will be below seasonal for December for at least the next week, with many days cloudy or at least partly cloudy. Finally, though not as well endowed as the Vivian Creek route, there is water avialable at a few locations. Crunchy layers as high as 9800 ft elevation told me it had rained that high at the start of the storm yesterday, but conversely there was very light snow (<1 inch) down to 5500 ft in Idyllwild. All trails above about 6500 ft are currently lightly, or above 8000 ft moderately, snow-covered. At San Jacinto Peak (10,810ft/3295m) on Monday 19th December 2022 at 0920 the air temperature was 31.3F (0C), with a windchill temperature of 20.7F (-6C), 9% relative humidity, and a light WNW wind sustained at 5 mph gusting to 9.9 mph. It has been a grim winter for search-and-rescue teams. SOLD JUN 7, 2022. San Gorgonio. Ernie Maxwell Trail [checked 23rd and 26th January] has good tracks to follow along its entire length, through the shallow icy snow (still >90% snow cover). Note that averages are given; due to strong winds accompanying storms there is extensive drifting. Summer months are the most popular for hikers. Snow cover is shallow up to about 7000 ft, but relatively heavy above 8000 ft. Melting on sun-exposed slopes is well underway, e.g., on lower South Ridge and Deer Springs trails. On Thursday 15th I ascended San Jacinto Peak via the east side (Devils Slide, Wellman, and Peak trails) and descended the west side via Deer Springs Trail, while on Monday 19th we hiked to the Peak up and down the east side trails. Details of snow depths measured at various locations on the trail system are given at the foot of this posting. At the Peak on Monday 30th January 2023 at 1110 the air temperature was 15.5F (-9C), with a windchill temperature of -0.4F (-18C), 98% relative humidity, and a light SSE wind sustained at 3 mph gusting to 8.4 mph. The latter includes interpreting the snow/ice conditions, understanding your physical and mental abilities, and conservative decision making. Thereafter a cooling trend will take temperatures well below seasonal again including the possibility of minor precipitation on 11th-15th February. Snowshoes can be used for ascending the highest peaks, but with considerable caution. If there are Road Closed signs further down often the case at weekends and holidays when snow is present then those nine spaces are also unavailable for legal parking. While searchers said three of the men who died were experienced hikers, Kumm is better described as an outdoors enthusiast, said Cpl. Nice postcard view of Dry Lake covered in untouched snow. Other Info. They tend to be especially valuable for descending trails. By Lance Pugmire and Janet Wilson Times Staff Writers January 22, 2004 With four Southland hikers dead since New Year's Day and two more missing, authorities on Wednesday closed a popular Mt. Marion Mountain Trail has a lightly-traveled posthole track to follow, that does not follow the trail route in places. The snow quickly turned into semi-melted slush. Spikes are currently recommended throughout the trail system above about 7500 ft. Although the high country currently has its deepest snow accumulation in almost four years, since March 2019, this winter nevertheless remains well below the average for snowfall in the San Jacinto mountains to late January. The high winds forecast did not materialize, although gusts up to 35 mph have been enough to cause very heavy drifting. Sadly it is looking increasingly likely that neither storm will significantly impact the San Jacinto mountains. The Vivian Creek Trail is definitely more than 7.8mi. Although my original track accurately followed the trail above Little Round Valley, there are now a fair number of alternate shortcut tracks across this slope, so cautious navigation is advised. On 23rd January I saw posthole tracks from Saddle Junction that head down the start of the Caramba Trail, the start of Willow Creek Trail, and following the PCT southbound toward Chinquapin Flat, but I have no further details at this time. Currently only two major trail routes have been traveled and even those may become partially obscured by drifted snow and fresh icefall. Snow cover is continuous from there, with a posthole track to Tahquitz Peak. Add : Sale Price: $8.88 . This trail has had limited hiker traffic since November 2018, largely because Dark Canyon Road has only been open for a few months since February 2019. Measurements taken on Monday 30th were unchanged by Wednesday 1st. Cautious navigation is strongly recommended everywhere. External Links. (one-way mileages to the top of San G) Snowshoes are dangerous due to the angle of the icy snow. Thank you so much for your support. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-hikers22jan22,1,1003736.story?coll=la-home-local Hikers Warned to Avoid Icy Risks Four are dead and two missing in Southland mountains. The first number is the current average total snow depth at that location, followed in parentheses by the approximate depth of fresh snow added by the latest storm sequence on 14th-17th January. The total snow accumulation was ultimately somewhat below prior forecasts, with San Jacinto Peak receiving about 9-10 inches overnight (rather than the 12-16 anticipated). Note however that snow depth itself is rarely indicative of the difficulty (or otherwise) of hiking a particular trail. Discover your local Girl Scout council: about Girl Scouts, what they do, what activities are available locally, and how to contact us. 0:04. The Peak Trail still has about 90% cover of icy snow to San Jacinto Peak. Vivian Creek is popular because it's the shortest and most accessible route, but it's also the steepest, so expect a good workout on your way to the summit. If there are Road Closed signs further down as was often the case last winter at weekends and holidays then those nine spaces are also unavailable for legal parking. Instead they end up miles from where they should be. I recorded a short video at the Peak, available here on YouTube. Note however that snow depth itself is rarely indicative of the difficulty (or otherwise) of hiking a particular trail. As of this morning, I saw no other broken tracks on the high country trail system. Forest Service campgrounds at Boulder Basin, Marion Mountain, and Fern Basin are now closed for the season. Section B. Warner Springs to I-10/San Gorgonio Pass. Only five of these require cutting, and I was able to remove three by hand earlier in February. The 0.4 mile section of South Ridge Trail between Chinquapin Flat/PCT and Tahquitz Peak has no steps to follow through the steeply angled icy snow. Marion Mountain Trail has a very well-defined track to follow. Snow from the moderate storm on 8th-9th November (summarized in a prior Report) has been melting steadily as temperatures in the past week have been above seasonal. San Gorgonio Mountain (5.8km) Lake Peak (6.7km) Jepson Peak (7.3km) Charlton Peak (7.3km) . Currently, and as conditions change, spikes are strongly recommended for the foreseeable future everywhere above about 7000 ft. "They're going to slip and fall thousands of feet, like these other hikers, if they're not properly prepared. Although excellent tracks are now in place for almost all major trails cautious navigation remains recommended. Every year seems to have its unique challenges and 2022 has been no exception. We had a Garmin GPS with us and it showed the total round trip mileage from the parking lot where you first start walking, to the top and back, as being a little over 18 miles round trip! Snow depths are currently excellent for snowshoeing everywhere above about 8000 ft, potentially lower in places. Very cautious navigation is advised throughout the area. Regarding snowfall, the high country may be above the cloud at times, with dustings of snow above about 7000 ft across much of the nine day period, but with the highest probability for a heavy snowfall on Saturday 31st December, totaling 8-15 inches. Todays rainfall total has passed an inch in Idyllwild, and various locations in Pine Cove (5800-6500 ft) were reporting 1.1 to 1.3 inches two hours ago. Note that there are about a dozen stream crossings and sections of the trail with water flowing in them, at times for tens of feet. Conditions remain very unsettled for the first week of January. Cloud cover started to envelop the mountains early this morning. Melting of snow on sun-exposed slopes and freeze-thaw cycles will combine to change trail conditions and potentially the preferred equipment for the terrain. Spikes tend to be especially useful for descending trails. The system was cooler in the early hours of Friday morning, with a dusting of snow to 6000 ft and a covering of icy sleet below that in Idyllwild. Spikes are recommended at least for descending upper Deer Springs Trail. Final totals for Idyllwild for the three day storm event were 6.5 inches of snow, plus an impressive 5.06 inches of rain. no traction device) to 9000 ft on a lightly traveled and lumpy posthole track through thin icy snow. Ernie Maxwell Trail has good tracks to follow along its entire length, through the continuous snow cover a few inches deep. Stone Creek campground had also closed, but I saw that it had apparently reopened for Thanksgiving weekend. Snowshoes are useful in low to moderate angle terrain with adequate snow depth above about 8000 ft, for example the Tahquitz area meadows near Saddle Junction, sections of Deer Springs Trail, and Long Valley/Round Valley. February has been more settled than the very eventful January, but temperatures remain on something of a rollercoaster ride. They are not however required, depending upon your comfort level hiking on shallow variable snow, potentially mixed with slushy and icy patches. Thank you so much for your support. Vehicles not parked in these spaces may be ticketed and/or towed. On both days I was able to ascend barebooting to about 8800 ft on 30th and to 9200 ft on 1st, before putting on crampons. (21 ), Google Search for 'San Gorgonio Wilderness', http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/ap/, Bear Flat, C2C, Vivian Creek: SoCal Triple Crown, The Hard Way, A Sleepless Winter Night On Top San Gorgonio, Southern California County Highpoints Tour, Cactus to Clouds, 9 Peak Traverse, and Baldy for the SoCal Triple Crown, Ascent of San Gorgonio - snowboarding down, My Personal "San Bernardino Mtns Trail Marathon", Spring Ascent of San Gorgonio's North Face. The source is here. (800) 735-2922 (TDD/TTY), Offices may be closed on select federal holidays, https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/sbnf/recreation/hiking/recarea/?recid=26575&actid=50. IMPORTANT UPDATE Thursday 26th January 2023: The State Park has announced that Skyline Trail is closed with immediate effect due to hazardous conditions above the State Park boundary (5800 ft elevation). Portable gas stoves are allowed. Darren Goodman of the sheriff's search-and-rescue team. Seven Pines Trail has not been traveled since last weeks storm, at least not in its uppermost section, and there is no track to follow through the snow. Snowshoes are very strongly recommended for any trails in, or leading to, the high country. The route is blessed with views first of Fish Creek Meadows, then the Ten Thousand Foot Ridge and Grinnell Mountain, and then Dry Lake while traversing Lake Peak. It is possible they may deteriorate even further with some warming from direct sunlight. All trails above about 6500 ft are currently lightly, or above 7500 ft moderately, snow-covered. Lightly cloudy conditions made for a delightful hike on the evening of Monday 21st ascending San Jacinto Peak via Marion Mountain and Deer Spring trails, descending the east side (Devils Slide, Wellman, and Peak trails). Comments Off on Vivian Creek Trail Maintenance, STAY SAFE! While my snowshoe track continues from Saddle Junctions through to San Jacinto Peak via Wellman Divide, this may rapidly become obscured by additional light snowfall and/or drifting snow from strong winds. ( Although I made a concerted effort to put in a track as faithful to the trail routes as conditions permitted, wild winds and spindrift powder on all the exposed slopes rendered that fairly pointless. Spikes are strongly recommended. A positive start to the new year, this is a summary of conditions following the fifth Pacific storm (but only the third significant snowfall) of winter 2022/23 to impact the San Jacinto mountains. Very cautious navigation is strongly recommended everywhere. Highways into Idyllwild were closed today and may well be for some or all of tomorrow. At San Jacinto Peak (10,810ft/3295m) on Thursday 24th November 2022 at 0810 the air temperature was 29.0F (-2C), with a windchill temperature of 5.7F (-15C), 16% relative humidity, and a severe NNW wind sustained at 25 mph gusting to 35.1 mph. Although excellent tracks are now in place and clearly visible for almost all major trails cautious navigation remains recommended. The freeze level will again start very high, but is forecast to fall lower, with the possibility of a light dusting of snow down to about 5500 ft. Another inch of rain is forecast for mid elevations, but a heavier snowfall is expected in the high country, with predictions ranging from 8-20 inches above 10,000 ft. Further precipitation is tentatively forecast for 3rd-6th January, but amounts, timing, and freeze levels remain uncertain this far ahead. Many locations below 9000 ft had actually experienced a net loss of snow depth, as the (relatively) warm rain had melted and compacted the pre-existing snow, and so little new snow fell subsequently. Thank you so much for your support. Conversely, lower down Devils Slide Trail is a combination of very light snow cover, slush, and multiple stream crossings, with much water flowing down the trail. http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/CABDF/2015-06-17-1915-Lake-Fire/picts/2015_06_24-16.53.57.084-CDT.pdf, As of July 16th 2015: website belongs to an official government organization in the Every year seems to have its unique challenges, and clearly 2023 will be no exception. The USFS gate at Humber Park remains closed. PCTA is aware of the situation, and is hoping to start addressing it soon (weather permitting). Note that near its junction with Deer Springs Trail, the route was not close to the established trail, so cautious navigation may be needed. Some hikers may continue to find spikes useful for some of the minor icy patches but they are no longer required. Early on cold mornings, the icy snow is grippy, and I did not find spikes necessary on 5th. Conversely in places scouring by the wind means the depths are well below the average. A less intense but slow moving multi-storm system is forecast for Friday 16th-Wednesday 21st. Also, Mill Creek RS phone number is now 909-382-2882 and they are closed Tues/Wed. Coldwell Banker. Discover your local Girl Scout council: about Girl Scouts, what they do, what activities are available locally, and how to contact us. Note that temperatures fluctuating either side of freezing are forecast for mid to upper elevations (at least >6000 ft) for the foreseeable future. An informal use trail to Laws is much more direct and avoids all of the very challenging bushwhacking of the former trails (local hikers Charles Phelan and Mark Gumprecht kindly nicknamed it the King Trail when I established the route in 2019). Provisional forecasts suggest the later storm systems, around 25th-27th February, could produce much more significant snowfall, potentially 10-12 inches in Idyllwild and 24+ inches at the highest elevations. For water information, please visit the PCT Water Report. No fresh snow fell overnight, with storm totals of about nine inches at San Jacinto Peak and 0.5 inch in Idyllwild unchanged. As described above, crampons with hiking poles and an ice axe, depending on terrain are currently very useful everywhere above about 9000 ft. Although not essential in the moderate depth powder, spikes are strongly recommended and many hikers will find them useful especially for descending. Major snowfall months have also occurred recently, in winters that did not otherwise end up with exceptional annual totals. Idyllwild (at 5550 ft): 3.5 inches (total 3.5 inch). Spikes will not be required by most hikers, depending upon comfort level hiking on patchy angled icy snow. However excellent well-traveled and compacted tracks are now in place for almost all major trails (details below). I kept those on for the rest of the ascent, and almost all of the descent, finally removing them most of the way down Devils Slide Trail. However, relatively well-traveled tracks are now in place for most major trails (details below). PCT Mile 181.8 (9070 ft): 9-10 inches (total 11-12 inches), Long Valley (8600 ft): 8 inches (8-9 inches), Saddle Junction/approx. This Residential listing has 2 Beds, 2 Full Baths. Note however that snow depth itself is rarely indicative of the difficulty (or otherwise) of hiking a particular trail. For those interested in a detailed statewide discussion of this dramatic weather event, I recommend reading the excellent analysis on Weather West (linked here). Recently I have mentioned the challenges of hard, icy snow underfoot and the value of using spikes (and/or crampons) especially for descending and traversing. It is a very popular mountain with several trails that lead to the summit. At the Peak on Thursday 17th November 2022 at 0825 the air temperature was 36.3F (2C), with a windchill temperature of 29.5F (-1C), 10% relative humidity, and a cool NW breeze sustained at 3 mph gusting to 6.3 mph. Spikes are not required for ascending, but some hikers will find them useful for descending. A well-traveled snowshoe track is in place up to Strawberry Junction. 2020 San Gorgonio: Type of Hike: Overnight: Trailhead: South Fork: Hiking Companions: Hiked with a group: Road Conditions: Road suitable for all vehicles: Bug Status: No bugs: Snow Conditions: Trail snow-covered at times - Gear and expertise recommended: Trail Conditions: Obstacles on trail: Hiked up to Dry Lake and set up camp for an early . Combined with a weak sun at this time of year, snow melt will generally be very slow at upper elevations, and conditions will be ideal for freeze/thaw cycles and hence icy trails. However a couple more inches of snow are expected this afternoon, and also on 2nd and 5th January. Snow on this east slope is drifted, and remains up to 12 inches deep in places. We have had an excellent start to 2023 regarding the water and snow situations in the San Jacinto mountains. At home at 5550 ft in Idyllwild we recorded 10.9F (-12C), the lowest temperature we have recorded there in nine winters. The first storm overnight on Monday 28th may produce snow above 10,000 ft (forecasts have ranged from 0-16 inches), and very light snow near the elevation of Idyllwild preceded by a little rain. The 0.4 mile section of South Ridge Trail between Chinquapin Flat/PCT and Tahquitz Peak has a well-traveled and level track to follow through the slowly melting inch of patchy icy snow (photo below from 30th). Taking the Pacific Coast Highway is one of the best road trips from Los Angeles and the best choice when taking a road trip to mountainous Big Sur. Be trail aware Watch your surroundings, the trail looks different when you are coming back down. Ironically the closure is due to unprecedented snow fall, although such snow fall was average prior to this century, and would have even been below average in the 1970s. Temperatures are expected to remain below average for January for the remainder of the month in Strawberry Valley (Idyllwild area), but are forecast to swing well above average (above freezing) for the highest elevations on 21st-26th January. Children refers to the set of objects that logically fall under a given object. Map Information, Forest Headquarters The peak is one of eleven peaks that are over 10,000 feet in elevation in the southeast portion of the San Bernardino Mountains. Long Valley at 8600 ft on the east slope received only about two inches of fresh snow. Dark Canyon Road (4S02, the access to Seven Pines Trail) and Santa Rosa Truck Trail (7S02) closed to vehicle traffic for the season on 7th November 2022. The Ernie Maxwell Scenic Trail has a well-traveled track to follow throughout, snow cover is 90%. Measured snow depths as of late morning/early afternoon today are: San Jacinto Peak (10,810 ft) 38 inches, at least 14 new in this storm; Wellman Divide (9700 ft) 30 inches, with 15 new in this storm; Annies Junction at 9070 ft the highest point of the PCT in Southern California 30 inches, with 14 new in this storm; Saddle Junction (8100ft) 15 inches, about 7-8 new in this storm; Devils Slide Trailhead at Humber Park (6520 ft) 2 inches, all from this storm. Spikes will likely become increasingly useful over the next few days and weeks as established trails become consolidated by hiker traffic and undergo freeze-thaw cycles. http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/ap/. UPDATE Wednesday 14th December 2022: Early this morning Anabel and I broke trail up Spitler Peak Trail to the PCT. Even when the gate is closed there are nine legal parking spaces below the locked gate (which still require an Adventure Pass or equivalent to be displayed). Altitudes are approximate. Qu'il s'agisse de randonnes pdestres ou vlo, il y a beaucoup d'endroits voir et visiter autour de Yucaipa. Precipitation on Sunday 4th into the early hours of Monday 5th is significantly less likely in the latest models. Deer Springs Trail has a posthole track to follow along its entire length. A weather system, possibly in two waves across a broad time window between 2nd and 5th December, is currently forecast to produce light precipitation at all elevations, including a possible dusting of snow in the high country [update 1st December: no precipitation is now expected from these storms passing to the north of us]. Spikes are recommended. There was no evidence of hiker tracks on Fuller Ridge Trail or Seven Pines Trail as of Monday 23rd January. That said, the cumulative effect of multiple systems is helpful to our moisture situation, and Tuesday 10th January saw the sixth storm in just over two weeks in the San Jacinto mountains (a timeline of the recent sequence of storms is available here in the previous Report). After that you have one of the best and most encouraging views of the summit of any route. Currently spikes at a minimum, and ideally crampons, with an ice axe (and knowledge of how to use it), are strongly recommended. My snowshoe track continues from Saddle Junction through to San Jacinto Peak via Wellman Divide , the Peak Trail, and East Ridge, but this may become obscured by additional light snowfall and/or drifting snow from strong winds. Hiked the South Fork trail to Dry Lake where we camped for the night. With some melting already underway and compaction caused by freeze-thaw cycles and hiker traffic, conditions will deteriorate for snowshoeing over the next few days, especially on more heavily traveled trails below 9000ft. That said, it has just started gently snowing in both locations, so storm totals may increase slightly over the next couple of hours. Days are short and nights are very cold. South Fork camps such as Dry and Dollar Lakes are also filling several weeks in advance.If you want to hike during the week, you have a better chance of getting a permit.Self-issue permits aren't always available - they oftentimes run out, or get stolen. Camping on the mountain or anywhere within the San Gorgonio Wilderness requires a permit that can be obtained from the San Gorgonio Ranger District at 34701 Mill Creek Road in Mentone, CA. Please report trail conditions. Ernie Maxwell Trail has a well traveled track to follow along its entire length, through the increasingly patchy icy snow. This table gives the weather forecast for San Gorgonio at the specific elevation of 3505 m. Our advanced weather models allow us to provide distinct weather . Altitudes are approximate. Forecasts are currently predicting 30-50 inches of snow for the highest peaks of the San Jacinto mountains (>10,000 ft) mainly between 23rd and 25th February, and about 18-30 inches for the Idyllwild area (5000-6000 ft elevations). In Idyllwild (at 5550 ft) it started raining at 1100, where it has been relatively slow to accumulate so far, with 0.4 inch by 1500. Very fine snow fell briefly this evening. Park here above the picnic area where there are a handful of parking spots. Weve had a long break due to the Covid-19 issues, but after developing a set of safety procedures our teams are back in business. Sadly this phenomenon has become much more of a factor in recent years with freezing rainfall (rather than snow) occurring at higher elevations at higher frequency with much warmer weather systems. The Caramba Trail from near Reeds Meadow through Laws Camp and on to Caramba, and the Cedar Trail from Willow Creek Trail to Laws, are described by the Forest Service as not maintained. Spikes are useful at least for descending. My tracks from Wednesday 11th January from Humber Park to San Jacinto Peak and down Deer Springs Trail will be largely visible but may be somewhat obscured in places. Thank you so much for your support. Started by: MikeH. Looking for partner (s) for these tentative scheduled hikes - see my Meetup SoCal Mountain Running & Mountaineering or DM me for more info. One major treefall hazard is across the trail almost exactly midway between the trailheads at Humber Park and Tahquitz View Drive. Marion Mountain Trail (surveyed at least weekly in past month) now has only about 20% icy snow cover, largely in the central section between about 7400-8200 ft elevation which is less sun-exposed.

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